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Post by tnadav1 on Feb 13, 2008 9:46:24 GMT -5
Your collection is wonderful ,can you tell the plot of the comics?. And about the Aurora\Ariel-can you tell about the Aurora story?.
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Post by buckmana on Feb 13, 2008 15:57:31 GMT -5
I have the comic on the bottom right. Basically, it's about Ariel going into a forbidden area and being captured by the arrogant princess of the eel people (she's very similar to Ariel, but a spoilt brat). Because Aquata is left in charge while Triton's gone away, she goes to find Ariel when it's discovered she's missing. Back in the kingdom of the eel people, there's this dialogue about how they're an aggresive warlike people and they have an annual competion where their warriors have to defeat a creature called the Serpentine which they're locked in a maze with. Being worried about a potential invasion, Ariel claims she's the only one of her kind. But Aquata has been captured and is thrown into the maze to get Ariel to tell the truth. That's as far is it gets. That's the end of the issue. According to what it says, there are three more issues in this story. That's why I want the scans, so I can find out what happens next. There is a reference to the movie which goes like this: Ariel: Flounder, look! It's a thingamabob! Flounder: Aw, Ariel, whattaya you need another one of those for? You've got nineteen already! Ariel: So now I'll have twenty. This is the line from Part Of Your World: You want thingamabobs? I've got twenty.
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Post by tnadav1 on Feb 14, 2008 11:56:45 GMT -5
Thanks for telling me . I think i saw some scans from Daring To Dream. Wait,what Ariel did to their princess? and she escaped? . And what happend to Aquatta? . I like the refence .
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Post by buckmana on Feb 14, 2008 22:08:02 GMT -5
Ariel did nothing to their Princess. Well, she said hello! But there is a scene which talks about how the princess likes to have strange pets, so she wanted to add Ariel to her collection. I don't know the answer to the last two, because that's where the comic stops. I would need the rest to answer your question. But I saw a couple of pictures on the internet that gave a couple of details. The first shows Triton arriving in the kingdom of the eel people and Sebastian announcing his presence, then adding that they're really in trouble (as you would expect if someone had kidnapped two of his daughters). The second shows the princess tied up on an island with Scuttle singing (although that's a generous description!) and Ariel has shown up to take her away. Since the princess was blocking her ears and begging for mercy, I'm guessing it wasn't a pleasant experience!
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Post by tnadav1 on Feb 15, 2008 9:50:53 GMT -5
Ah,okay . I saw a picture of Ariel fighting the princess. How did Aquatta got captured?. Ah,Triton . Scuttle singing dosn't sounds like having fun . Thought i didn't like the idea of this comics at all (Ariel get caought by a kingdom of freaks?).
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Post by buckmana on Feb 15, 2008 14:17:22 GMT -5
The kingdom of the eel people is in an area the Atlanticans are forbidden to go. But Ariel was curious, so she went there. When Ariel was captured, Flounder came back and told Sebastian, who told Aquata. Then Arista says something about how Aquata won't be a good future ruler if she can't even keep track of one little mermaid. So Aquata sets of in search of Ariel and when she arrives in the eel people's kingdom, she gets captured as well. Judging from the eel princess' behavior, it wasn't an enjoyable experience to be Scuttle's "guest". Most of the eel people seemed okay to me. The princess is a spoiled brat and the king was ready to declare war at the drop of a hat, although he was a fairly smart fellow, so they were exceptions to the rule. And about the freaks comment: When Ariel first arrives in their kingdom, they're screaming and swimming away. In their culture, mermaids are scary creatures, the equivalent of fairy tale monsters. So, from their point of view, she's the freak. Even though all she was doing was trying to say hello!
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Post by tnadav1 on Feb 15, 2008 14:38:30 GMT -5
Oh,thanks for telling me did they show other sisters? and Flounder where to go and got captured with her?. Wait,so they're just scared of merpeople? (i guess they don't think merpeople were created for little girls like some people thinks,i disagree with them). If you say they're not freaks i guess they arn't,maybe i just didn't liked the idea of Ariel getting captured . Did Ariel were caught in a net? (Aquata got stuck in a net?).
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Post by buckmana on Feb 15, 2008 15:32:51 GMT -5
Just Arista and Aquata, although the others appear.
Flounder is sneaking around the eel people kingdom, because he sees Aquata after she is captured (in a net). And then he goes for help.
The myth was something about how the sight of mermaids does horrible things to you. But it's just a silly superstition the eel people have.
Blame the princess. Ariel was caught because the princess shocked her. Apparently, she's an electric eel. Then she was in a fishbowl and then was dragging around a heavy weight (so she couldn't swim away). She used it later (haven't read it, just saw a pic on the internet) to break the bars that kept the Serpentine in the maze, this was so Aquata could escape.
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Post by tnadav1 on Feb 15, 2008 15:57:39 GMT -5
Yay,the other sisters . Fishbowl? i"m defintly deniling this comic forever and write imagining their princess dies.
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Post by pokeria1 on Feb 15, 2008 16:04:32 GMT -5
Yay,the other sisters . Fishbowl? i"m defintly deniling this comic forever and write imagining their princess dies. Deny it all you want, I won't stop you. However, I must warn you that this comic explains how Ursula has that skeletal Leviathan Lair that we see in both the Movie and the TV series. (remember the serpentine? well, after it's death, Ursula bought it's carcass from it in a deal [whether it's the soul steal deal or not is unknown], and she used the carcass to make it the lair that we know today.), so if you wanted answers as to how she came to live in that skeleton, You are making a costly sacrifice by denying this comic's canonicity.
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Post by tnadav1 on Feb 15, 2008 16:16:31 GMT -5
Hmm,she found it,yeah,she found it,it was just lying there,yeah,there's not story behind it. You can deny anything for exmaple,there's also a book explain why Ursula got banished and Disney ignored it.
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Post by buckmana on Feb 15, 2008 17:20:30 GMT -5
I don't know the details, but a deleted scene from the Little Mermaid says Ursula was cast out for trying to take over Atlantica. It also said that Ursula was Triton's sister. I guess that makes her Ariel's aunt. Not a very good one apparently!
Although a joke a Disney mag made was that Ursula was cast out for hogging the buffet and pushing in front of King Triton at banquets.
I wonder, if Ursula was originally a mermaid, did she use her powers to "change" into a octopus-like creature?
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Post by pokeria1 on Feb 15, 2008 18:40:51 GMT -5
I don't know the details, but a deleted scene from the Little Mermaid says Ursula was cast out for trying to take over Atlantica. It also said that Ursula was Triton's sister. I guess that makes her Ariel's aunt. Not a very good one apparently! Although a joke a Disney mag made was that Ursula was cast out for hogging the buffet and pushing in front of King Triton at banquets. I wonder, if Ursula was originally a mermaid, did she use her powers to "change" into a octopus-like creature? I don't buy the whole "Ursula = Triton's sister" thing. I mean: 1. it was a deleted scene, and apparantly, Ursula was similar to Yzma in terms of shape back then, as it was before her Octopid form. besides, just because it is a deleted scene doesn't mean that it is canon. I mean, look at Shaak Ti's deleted death scene in "Revenge of the Sith", she was later confirmed to be alive by George Lucas himself, thus making that deleted scene Non-Canon. 2. If Ursula turned herself into the Octopid thing, Morgana would have as well, and, considering her hatred of her Sister among other things, as well as her jealousy, I don't think she is able to transform into an entirely different form. Plus, due to the fact that Triton apparantly made a seal on the Trident that makes it too heavy for anyone to wield from it's place besides someone related to him (either him or a descendant, maybe a relative as well.), and If She was Triton's sister, Morgana would be as well, and thus, she wouldn't have had to resort to using Melody to getting it, since she could resort to sneaking in and getting it since, considering that she is of Blood relations, she can easily remove it.
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Post by tnadav1 on Feb 16, 2008 8:10:49 GMT -5
There's a book called Once Upon A Princess which tells fact we never knew Princess (for exmaple-in Belle's story they tell us how Belle started to like books and etc.),in volume 1 there's stories about Ariel,Jasmine and Esmeralda,in Ariel's story they tell us that ursula (she was an octopus and had vennesa's hair only grey) used to work for Triton and she fell in love with him but he was in love with Ariel's mom so she lied to the merpeople that Triton is making deals with humans that convied them to make her a queen,Triton explained them it's a lie and banished Ursula. In Kingdom Hearts II Flounder or Sebastian said that she used to help merpeople but tried to overthrow Triton and so he banished her. So as you can Disney allways make errors,you can deny anything (exept the film) also about the deleted scene-in Little Mermaid II Morgana and Ursula had their own mother and Triton isn't their brother so again,errors.
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