Kat
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Post by Kat on Sept 10, 2008 19:29:00 GMT -5
Just a quick mention about Lucifer: according to Disney, Lucifer simply broke a paw. He DID survive. :)
I'd say Gaston is definately dead, though. He fell a REALLY long way. And I doubt there was a trampoline ala Yzma to save him. ;) So yeah.
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Post by pokeria1 on Sept 10, 2008 19:53:41 GMT -5
Just a quick mention about Lucifer: according to Disney, Lucifer simply broke a paw. He DID survive. :) Ironically, Santa was killed by a much smaller fall than that. Didn't Ariel survive a fall from a similar height, though? I mean, there wasn't a trampoline to save her, either, yet she survived her several hundred foot fall into the maelstorm uninjured (that doesn't necessarily mean unscathed, since she does have Ursula's beams to worry about.), and... Actually, there were rocks fallling down with her, and she survived those still. I still don't get how Ariel can survive that, and yet Gaston can't (I mean, you know, BESIDES Ariel being the Protagonist of the story). Also, technically, by real life standards, I don't think even a Trampoline would save Yzma, either. EDIT:Speaking of Gaston, nice GastonXArista pic, Kat! I wonder where you got the inspiration from. BTW, I would have posted the pics fully, but the server got messed up, only displaying one out of the six images, so I linked them instead. I'll see if that glitch is fixed now. EDIT2: Sigh, the glitch still exists. I mean, out of all the existing websites that has TLM pics, why is Simba's screenshots the only ones that are unable to upload onto the site? EDIT3: Even IF there wasn't a trampoline to save Gaston, he had an entire RIVER to save him. The River was in the ravine, BTW, so assuming that he landed in the river, he could have just as easily survived. |
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Post by Prince of Bubbles on Sept 11, 2008 0:32:15 GMT -5
Ironically, Santa was killed by a much smaller fall than that.
[/quote]Didn't Ariel survive a fall from a similar height, though? I mean, there wasn't a trampoline to save her, either, yet she survived her several hundred foot fall into the maelstorm uninjured (that doesn't necessarily mean unscathed, since she does have Ursula's beams to worry about.), and... Actually, there were rocks fallling down with her, and she survived those still. I still don't get how Ariel can survive that...[/quote] I'm being an eternal optimist here, but I'm guessing the sand that she landed in was really soft and squishy? lol
Disclaimer:I only bolded so it was easier for me to read. I'm not yelling or trying to provoke anyone. |
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Post by pokeria1 on Sept 11, 2008 14:50:32 GMT -5
Didn't Ariel survive a fall from a similar height, though? I mean, there wasn't a trampoline to save her, either, yet she survived her several hundred foot fall into the maelstorm uninjured (that doesn't necessarily mean unscathed, since she does have Ursula's beams to worry about.), and... Actually, there were rocks fallling down with her, and she survived those still. I still don't get how Ariel can survive that... ehhh.... I don't think that stuff at the bottom of the seafloor was sand, much less it being squishy. I mean, it looked like either coral or rocks. Yeah, I know what that's like. Sometimes when we watch a movie as a family, we watch it in subtitles because one of my family members thinks it's easier to focus on it. |
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Post by pokeria1 on Sept 17, 2008 15:41:58 GMT -5
Sorry for double posting, but I discovered something rather... ehhh... disturbing about how Gaston and the Beast's final battle was originally supposed to fare out.
we already know that the original script had Gaston saying "time to die!" when he was about to whack the Beast. (and that it was changed to "Belle is mine!" in the final product), However, I'm pretty sure virtually no one heard about this edit up till now:
Ok, you know how Gaston was giving a High pitched scream when he falls off the roof in the movie, right? Well, that's not how he was originally supposed to react to his supposed "death". Actually, when he was falling off the roof, He was originally supposed to give a sadistic, maniacal laugh as he is falling down.
Basically, in other words, how Gaston was originally supposed to react in regards to falling into the ravine was going to be similar to how the Joker was reacting when he falls off the skyscraper in "The Dark Knight"'s climax (well, at least, before Batman saved him.) (remember how the Joker was laughing maniacally when he was falling to his doom?)
So this original cut, had it come in full fruition, would have either meant, A. he knew he wouldn't die from a fall from that height, B. he had felt that he was right, and that the Beast is a killer like himself (similar to how the Joker might have been laughing as he fell off the skyscraper), or C. that he killed the beast.
I learned of it just a few minutes ago on Wikipedia, because Jienum, a person who often regulates the Gaston article, and an acquaintance of mine, added that tidbit in.
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Post by littlemermaidfan80 on Nov 10, 2008 8:14:54 GMT -5
Dead
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Post by fathomsbelow on Jan 1, 2009 22:03:25 GMT -5
Yea they do flash a skull in Gaston right before he falls. On the DVD pause it and go frame by frame you totally see it. That's why I think he's dead too. I think I read somewhere that when Disney released Batb as a Platinum edition DVD, they decided to put skulls in his eyes so that his fate would be unquestionable to the fans. So, I believe he died. |
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Post by rr on Jan 4, 2009 10:10:04 GMT -5
The skull is funny. But really, Lucifer falls out of the tower. Gason maybe ... nooooo! DEAD!
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Post by pokeria1 on Jan 6, 2009 19:39:31 GMT -5
Fine, believe he is dead, but I still doubt that he is dead, especially considering how they didn't show the results of the death. I don't count the whole "skull-eyes" thing as actual proof, as that could just as easily mean that he was thinking that he's dead.
I don't buy the guy's comments about trying to confirm that he died with the eyes thing, as 1. If that was supposed to be proof, why don't you Also show his body in the ravine? and 2. Considering how the Pokemon Writers "officially" stated (and basically lied) that Ash's father was supposed to appear in Season 5, and yet he never appeared, and wasn't even mentioned, I'm very wary about trusting these guys about their word.
Don't get me wrong, I hate Gaston with a Passion, as he is a bad guy, but I still have doubts on him being dead.
BTW, someone has yet to explain this flaw. If he was truly killed by the fall, how was LeFou able to survive the things HE went through (Like being punched with such force and magnitude that someone his size would be killed instantly, having a bench with the added weight of three hundred plus pounds (what the Airheaded girls possibly weigh) placed down on him, Gaston's chair being thrown on him (With Gaston sitting on it, not to mention), AND surviving for several Weeks, if not several MONTHS, in the snow.). Seesh, now I'm beginning to actually HATE LeFou, as now how he survives all those things (Most of which have an even LESS likely chance of survival than Gaston's falling off a building), whileas Gaston doesn't even survive. Illogical inconsistency!
I mean, seriously, why don't they also kill LeFou much earlier? I mean, it would at least seem consistant, as both times, logical consistency prevails.
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Post by T'Lani on May 17, 2009 13:48:48 GMT -5
People in films (cartoon or otherwise) can often survive things that would kill people in real-life. He isn't dead in my opinion.
Is that GastonXArista image in Kat's signature inspired by one of the RP's at the Fantasmic site?
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Post by Marina Del Rey on May 17, 2009 19:11:30 GMT -5
BTW, someone has yet to explain this flaw. If he was truly killed by the fall, how was LeFou able to survive the things HE went through (Like being punched with such force and magnitude that someone his size would be killed instantly, having a bench with the added weight of three hundred plus pounds (what the Airheaded girls possibly weigh) placed down on him, Gaston's chair being thrown on him (With Gaston sitting on it, not to mention), AND surviving for several Weeks, if not several MONTHS, in the snow.). Seesh, now I'm beginning to actually HATE LeFou, as now how he survives all those things (Most of which have an even LESS likely chance of survival than Gaston's falling off a building), whileas Gaston doesn't even survive. Illogical inconsistency! The real answer to that is that Lafou is more of a cartoon than Gaston is. Disney could resurrect Gaston, yes, but what we assume for now is that he's dead as a doorknob. |
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Post by ღAmiღ on Aug 11, 2010 16:58:12 GMT -5
No one could survive a fall that high, even if there was water at the bottom, which i dought, hes definatly a dead man!!
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