TLM in the future

[pokeria1]

Feb 3, 2009 18:53:46 GMT -5 WickedElphie said:

The problem is that the TV series has been more or less written out of existence by Ariel's Beginning, so it's unlikely to be referred to in future merchandise.

True, but then again, Ariel's Beginning technically wrote the Original Movie out of existance as well (and by consequence, TLM2.), and yet, come Blue-ray, the movie should release should have some merchandising.

Yes, Ariel's Beginning did, indeed, retcon the original movie, as many things in that so-called Prequel were quite inconsistent to the original movie in such a degree that it simply cannot be linked to the original movie at all. I mean, at least with "Twist through Time", they had a good excuse for the inconsistencies between it and the first Cinderella Movie, as the theme of the movie dealt with Time Travel/Time distortion. I actually gave a huge list about how AB had a lot of inconsistencies towards the original movie for a supposed "true-prequel" movie. I mean, even the original TV series had far fewer inconsistencies between it and TLM. If you want me to copy my post and paste it to this thread, I will.

[fridamoonbeam]

yeah, but I know a lot of people who haven't seen the show that have seen AB. And that's the view they have. I don't think Disney would go back and forth so quickly. But it really annoys me that the makers of AB were too lazy to look back in the archive on certain charries ( Poor Arista! XD ) Even if Adella amused me greatly.

And as I've said before, if they don't put evident love and creativity as was put into the origanal movie, then I don't want anything else out of this franchise, sorry.

[DanTheMan]

Where is your thread about the inconsistances pokeria? I would like to read it.

[pokeria1]

Feb 4, 2009 1:32:46 GMT -5 DanTheMan said:

Where is your thread about the inconsistances pokeria? I would like to read it.

It's more of a post than an actual thread, but, oh well, here's the post in question (the original posting was in the TV series debate.)

Well, I guess you may be right about "Neverland"/"Fairies" and Cinderella III/II. But I don't know about your use of TLM III is a good example since, unlike Cinderella or Peter pan, Ariel's Beginning contradicted far more than just the original series/sequels. It also contradicted the first movie, as well. You see, the plot of the movie simply could not in any way match up with any of the TLM related stuff, not even the first movie. For example, Triton's description of humanity (barbaric Harpoon-using fish-eaters) would imply that Ariel's mom was killed by humans for food, and possibly for the heck of it and enjoyment as well, but in Ariel's beginning, Athena had been run over by a ship, and whether they actually intended to hit Athena or not was never mentioned. They never even mentioned Ursula at all in that movie, (In fact, the only character who would have even been close in character to Ursula in that movie, Marina Del Ray, didn't even have the same punishment as Ursula [Marina was sent to rot in a cell for the rest of her life.], There didn't seem to be a ban on being near the shore at all (as evidenced by Marina being on the beach at one point), the daughters were completely mixed up, and Flounder's sudden change in personality was never even explained. Heck, even Ariel herself seemed very inconsistent (She didn't seem to have an interest of Humanity at all in this movie, not to mention, they never actually explained the Humanity obsession. Yes, I know that was explained in the TV Series, but if they were going to try and make the TV Series non-canon, they should at least write up a different backstory for her obsession.), The Musical concert in the first movie didn't seem to be that hyped up with the fact that there's music (If they were hyping up anything, it's the fact that Ariel now joined the Daughters of Triton band.). Speaking of her joining the band, since Ariel was pretty much the reason why Music even returned to Atlantica in AB, They would most likely have made Ariel the band leader of "Daughter's of Triton", instead of waiting until almost a year later to have her in it (as the daughter's lyrics implied that the Band that was interrupted by Ariel's disappearance was going to be Ariel's stage debut), among other things. That's not even taking into account AB's contradictions with the TV series and the Sequels.

In fact, out of all of the mainstream collections of the TLM series (That is, the movie, it's sequel, the prequel, the Series, and maybe the books to a certain extent), this has the largest amounts of Plotholes in it. At least with the TLM series, and even the sequel, they tried to keep most of the things in the first movie intact. Ariel's beginning, on the other hand, had so many errors when comparing it to TLM and the rest of it's continuity, it's almost as if the creators weren't even trying to keep with the continuity of the first movie.

[DanTheMan]

Thanks, and a very good post. I never even thought of that, then again, I haven't even seen AB yet. I'll have to look out for those.

[seapearlprincess]

I feel Disney knows that Ariel is very valuable character. It's been 20 years since her release and she still has an incredible fan base, and not just girls 3-7. I know that I used to never be able to find anything that had Ariel but it had all the other princesses on it. Now I see alot of 'just Ariel' merchandise. TLM 3 was a big let down to me I know, But Disney is going to keep releasing things. The new line of books about Ariel's life with Eric is just the beginning. If you check Disney Shopping Ariel is 2nd to Cinderella about having the most products. So no one should be worried about Ariel going away. But I do agree that they need to keep Ariel 'Ariel' Her image and voice must stay the same! I feel in the future we could possibly see a live action film of Ariel/TLM. Like The new re-vamp of Alice in Wonderland? Disney may do mermaid line, but that would mean removing Ariel from the DP line, which is something I think, Disney will never do. (money, of course.)

[Gina]

I would personally LOVE to see the film re-released in the movie theaters, just not in 3-D. Disney seems to be doing with all of their re-released films, and I'm not really feeling it with their older stuff. I think LM is fantastic enough without the 3-D element clashing with the original story. My opinion, though!

I would love to know a lot more about Eric and his life a bit before he met Ariel. I mean, I think there was some little storylines in the TV series, but I may be wrong on that! I really like Eric's character, I think he's adorable, but it would be nice to see where he came from and how he grew up.

That's all I can think of for now!

[arielfan22]

I'd love to see a 3d version of Little Mermaid on the big screen...

Would love to have another movie, or a tale that's 45 minutes long.
=> an adventure about the time after wedding but before Melody was born or about how she became fascinated with the human world & Ursula's past