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Post by ariel7angel on Mar 23, 2007 18:13:07 GMT -5
Yeah i would agree because it is supposed to be made before she meets Eric and becomes human!!!!!
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Post by eltuita on Mar 23, 2007 22:01:01 GMT -5
Yeah i would agree because it is supposed to be made before she meets Eric and becomes human!!!!! Yes, that's true, but I remember an episode, the one of the boot, I don't remember how the call them "Thingamagigler" lol lol anyway, you know what I mean , she goes to the surface with Flounder and she saw Eric and I recognize that cute looking on her face, she was like: "He's gorgeous", so, I don't know if that's an error or they just tried to make Ariel and Eric love something that was meant to be.
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Post by Bijou on Oct 28, 2007 0:05:27 GMT -5
It's really hard to keep continuity straight on a TV series, and sometimes it isn't worth it VS what story ideas you could pursue. If it comes down to being able to do the "Metal Fish" episode or staying true to a throwaway line from the movie, what are ya gonna choose? Plus Disney's always been very flexible continuity-wise. I mean Hercules had never met Hades until they made the deal in the movie, yet he popped up all the time in the series as villain, and IMO they made the right call. Hades is SUCH a fabulous character and James Woods does SUCH a great job, the show would have really suffered without him. Well-said, I was surprised there weren't more continuity problems actually - it's tough when it's a show set such a long time ago in uncharted territory (i.e., this magical underwater mermaid kingdom) where these half-humans aren't actually supposed to have any human items, at least, any of the list of them used in the original film. Metal Fish is one of my most favourite episodes of the entire series.
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Post by pokeria1 on Oct 28, 2007 6:14:53 GMT -5
It's really hard to keep continuity straight on a TV series, and sometimes it isn't worth it VS what story ideas you could pursue. If it comes down to being able to do the "Metal Fish" episode or staying true to a throwaway line from the movie, what are ya gonna choose? Plus Disney's always been very flexible continuity-wise. I mean Hercules had never met Hades until they made the deal in the movie, yet he popped up all the time in the series as villain, and IMO they made the right call. Hades is SUCH a fabulous character and James Woods does SUCH a great job, the show would have really suffered without him. Well-said, I was surprised there weren't more continuity problems actually - it's tough when it's a show set such a long time ago in uncharted territory (i.e., this magical underwater mermaid kingdom) where these half-humans aren't actually supposed to have any human items, at least, any of the list of them used in the original film. Metal Fish is one of my most favourite episodes of the entire series. Also didn't know the Hercules series had Hades in it, so cool. Hmm, I kinda would disagree with the whole "Mer-people legally not able to use human artifacts in the first movie" thing considering that Sebastian WAS seen with a Musical score in the beginning of the film (speaking of which, considering how Triton berated his own daughter for affiliating herself with humans and their artifacts, I'm actually quite surprised that Sebastian was even allowed to have a human artifact with him, and Triton never seemed to berate him for it.), but, meh, that's just my viewpoint, anyways.
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Post by WickedElphie on Oct 28, 2007 12:14:55 GMT -5
I think that we were supposed to think the 'human objects' used by the merpeople and fish were actually Atlantican things that were created independently, but happened to look the same. Or something like that.
BTW In Thingamajigger Ariel never actually see's Eric's face or hears him called by name.
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Post by buckmana on Nov 3, 2007 1:27:51 GMT -5
For example, in the series Sebastian spends a lot of time in Ariel's grotto and then is shocked to discover its existance in the movie (maybe he suffered amnesia between the two). If you discover any new ones, share them here! Since I haven't seen season 3, I can't comment on what happens then. Can someone tell me if Sebastian goes there in that season? But anyway, what I thought happened is Ursula destroyed all of Ariel's treasures in a plot to be Queen of Atlantica. So maybe Sebastian is shocked because he discovered she made a new collection after this time. Yes, that's true, but I remember an episode, the one of the boot. That's a great episode! Evil Manta becomes convinced a boot is a weapon (because he aims it at a hill which is accidentally destroyed by cannon fire). I love the part where Ariel shows up with the other one and tricks him in running away, ending up with both of them, which she knows are harmless.
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Post by WickedElphie on Nov 7, 2007 13:20:59 GMT -5
The episode where Ariel's stuff is destroyed is the seocnd to last of the series. So there's no time for Sebastian to see it again later.
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Post by Bijou on Nov 9, 2007 8:04:40 GMT -5
I think that we were supposed to think the 'human objects' used by the merpeople and fish were actually Atlantican things that were created independently, but happened to look the same. Or something like that. That would make sense. It's not like merpeople have less advanced minds than humans so why wouldn't they come up with variations of the same things a lot of the time? (Provided that they were appropriate for underwater, haha.) Haha I just saw that one - "I wish I could've seen his face!" I loved all of the cheeky Eric cameos they put on the show
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Post by jodeefan12 on Nov 12, 2007 22:21:58 GMT -5
on beached when ariel knocks down the gators with a cannon she goes strike! first of all they didnt have bowling back then and how did she know what to say? i try to think of the series pre movie and the movie as the movie! cause if i put them together i get confused!
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Post by Random Prince on Nov 14, 2007 9:06:29 GMT -5
on beached when ariel knocks down the gators with a cannon she goes strike! first of all they didnt have bowling back then and how did she know what to say? That was a joke.
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Post by WickedElphie on Nov 16, 2007 0:14:53 GMT -5
Right after Ariel says "Strike!" the others look at hera nd she say's something like, "It just seemed like the thing to say." The writers acknowledged that it made no sense. It was a wink at the audience.
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Post by pokeria1 on Nov 24, 2007 12:18:38 GMT -5
on beached when ariel knocks down the gators with a cannon she goes strike! first of all they didnt have bowling back then and how did she know what to say? That was a joke. yeah, and even If it wasn't a pseudo-fourth-wall-wrecker, It wouldn't be the last time they referenced a sport that shouldn't have been invented yet (much less playable underwater). Sebastian's "Sea Golf" line from TLM2 comes to mind. also, while you could argue that the Merpeople are advanced in certain areas, the same shouldn't be said for the humans (some of the people at Melody's B-day party were using current-day slang from what I've heard.) also, about the Ursula thing... Technically, in the movie, Ariel does know ursula, and has maybe met her before, considering how, when Flotsam and Jetsam revealed just who sent them to get her, Ariel immediately responds with an almost fearful quiver in her voice "The sea witch...?!", so it is unlikely that her encounters with ursula aren't canon. as for the whole "sebastian human collection" controversy, well, you've got me there, but it may be likely that he was more surprised that Ariel managed to rebuild her collection so quickly. also, about the adella bodyframe issue, that was covered in another thread. besides, the whole "Part of your world" lyrics in themselves seemed to have some contradicting things. In one lyric, they made it seem as if Ariel wasn't allowed to go up to the surface simply because she was too young rather than because Triton made all contact between humans and merpeople (at least, on the surface) Illegal. (the lyric in question was: " when's it my Turn? Oh, wouldn't I love, love to explore the shores above?") hmm... as for Archimedes, maybe he was placed in the merperson version of Jail (I mean, considering how they don't want human artifacts in the area, I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case)? perhaps that's why Ariel needed Scuttle to try and identify human artifacts, since he is the only other living creature to have at least some knowledge of Human Artifacts. anyways, that's all for now.
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Post by Random Prince on Nov 24, 2007 14:20:49 GMT -5
I like when they slip in words and things that would totally not exist at the time. Let's face it, it's not supposed to be realistic. It's all about mermaids, magic and singing crabs, so why not have bowling? I always assumed Archimedes died between the series and the movie. He seemed pretty old.
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Post by Bijou on Dec 15, 2007 9:21:51 GMT -5
lol Poor Archimedes! He was probably a better guide to humans for Ariel than Scuttle.
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Post by Flounder on Apr 13, 2008 9:22:41 GMT -5
Found one... In the episode "Metal Fish" Archemedies says "But some things i don't know what to call. Like this for example (hold out a piggy bank) Humans use the to carry around what the call coins. So they can jingle around everywhere they go" So they don't know what coins are right? Well in this episode Ariel give a "coin" to the eel Maby mer-people call it something else?
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Post by tnadav1 on Apr 14, 2008 5:31:55 GMT -5
That was good,Flounder.I think they call it shells?. More: In Trident True and Land of the Dinosaurs you have to want the Trident to shoot,in The Great Sebastian,Sebastian make it shoot by clean it. In Trident True you need to tell the Trident to shoot,in Land of the Dinosaurs Ariel make it shoot by thinking like Triton.
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