Shotty
Sea Cucumber
All hail Queen Ariel.
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TLM4
Dec 30, 2008 23:45:23 GMT -5
Post by Shotty on Dec 30, 2008 23:45:23 GMT -5
Okay so I think it would be a good idea to bring out TLM4 but I also agree with Jazzy, just let TLM go with what dignity it does have. But if the Disney Princesses are such a big part of disney then how could they just let them go? What happens after they run outta more movies to make about them? Is that kinda like the Disney Princess line dying? What happens then?
I have personally heard no news about TLM4 coming out. I think seriously they do need to answer that question everyone is wondering about. Ursula's phrase about living in the palace and why they were banished.
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Dec 31, 2008 0:52:01 GMT -5
Post by DanTheMan on Dec 31, 2008 0:52:01 GMT -5
How would it lose dignity if they released a new movie?
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Jan 4, 2009 1:28:23 GMT -5
Post by macgregor on Jan 4, 2009 1:28:23 GMT -5
How would it lose dignity if they released a new movie? Because if they did it probably wouldn't be too great. If you have a masterpiece that is greatly loved and then make a sequel(s) that isn't nearly as good, fans will always compare the sequels to the original and will therefor have bad things to say about certain things inside that universe(when I say universe, I basically mean cartoon world. TLM is it's own world, Spider Man is it's own world, etc.) It's not the fact that there's more than one movie, but the fact that the other movies have a lot of things to talk badly about while the first one doesn't. Ok, if they made a TLM movie set in outer space and had aliens kidnap Ariel I doubt anyone would be excited. They'd probably get angry that Disney wasted a chance to make another Little Mermaid movie by making it in a way the fans wouldn't enjoy it..therefore you've permanently put a stain on the name of TLM. Sure, you can ignore it, but it's still there. A company can't just waste money on movie after movie, they make movies to get money and they get money by making good movies and they get fans who spend even more money by making good movies. Basically you'd want to make each film better than the first and Disney hasn't even made a sequel 100% as good as it's predecessor. OTHERWISE you give the fans things to complain about, not exclaim about. Which is better- a bag full of great cookies or a bag with one great cookie and the rest half eaten, moldy, hard, etc. And that helps explain why Disney has become tarnished. They've become so loved that they put all their effort into selling than creating and that's cost them way too many mistakes so far. They really need to wake up and smell the coffee soon, they've been loosing so much money. I mean, not statistically speaking but when you think about it. You can't create a whole world for an hour and a half movie and then try to make a sequel without looking at every single thing that went into the making of the first. It's hard because it's not like one person thinks it up, so many people went into the making of that movie, so many tiny tiny details are spur of the moment things, each character can probably be credited to at least three people in terms of who decided to give them that nose or those bangs or make them blue instead of orange. There's so much thought that goes into an animated film, especially Disney classics, it's incredible. That's why you can't just want a story, you need to have a story. And then once you find that story, you need to develop and develop and develop until every possible thought has been answered. Even if all the same people who worked on TLM had worked on TLM2 shortly after TLm came out, there's still a good chance it wouldn't be as good. Once you create something that is greatly loved, those who love it get defensive/protective when it is expanded. sorry for the long shpeal, hope it's understood.
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TLM4
Jan 5, 2009 23:29:34 GMT -5
Post by DanTheMan on Jan 5, 2009 23:29:34 GMT -5
Because if they did it probably wouldn't be too great. If you have a masterpiece that is greatly loved and then make a sequel(s) that isn't nearly as good, fans will always compare the sequels to the original and will therefor have bad things to say about certain things inside that universe(when I say universe, I basically mean cartoon world. TLM is it's own world, Spider Man is it's own world, etc.) Oh, a long post, very good lol.. Anyway, for this part, I would have to say that it doesn't really detract from my point. If someone watches a sequel, and MUST compare it to the original, then that would be their fault. If they must bash TLM based on a 'bad' sequel, then they truly don't appreciate TLM. Did I think the sequel was as good as the first movie. Of course not, but that doesn't stop me from enjoying it, and TLM in general. Peoples' expectations are too high, and that's their fault. It's not the fact that there's more than one movie, but the fact that the other movies have a lot of things to talk badly about while the first one doesn't. Ok, if they made a TLM movie set in outer space and had aliens kidnap Ariel I doubt anyone would be excited. They'd probably get angry that Disney wasted a chance to make another Little Mermaid movie by making it in a way the fans wouldn't enjoy it..therefore you've permanently put a stain on the name of TLM. Sure, you can ignore it, but it's still there. A company can't just waste money on movie after movie, they make movies to get money and they get money by making good movies and they get fans who spend even more money by making good movies. Basically you'd want to make each film better than the first and Disney hasn't even made a sequel 100% as good as it's predecessor. OTHERWISE you give the fans things to complain about, not exclaim about. Which is better- a bag full of great cookies or a bag with one great cookie and the rest half eaten, moldy, hard, etc. I see what you're saying here, and I agree, however, I have to tell you, plenty of movie companies have wasted money on movie after movie. Heck, it's happening right now, especially with a lot of these horror movies that are out. However, once again, I don't see how this would 'tarnish' TLM. In order for it to be 'tarnished' something BAD would have to happen, and so far, I've yet to see anything bad happen. The sequel was not bad at all, however, people were expecting it to be better than the first one, and guess what: Not one Disney sequel can beat the first movie of that story, and that's the truth. Why, because that's how Disney made it. Their first movies were basically made to last forever, and forever be etched in peoples' minds...well, forever. When you do something like that, no sequel in the world can beat it, but guess what, people still want sequels, because they want to see a continuation of that story. Therefore, sequels were bound to happen, and even though I didn't think the second TLM was as good as the first one, that will not stop me from enjoying it for what it is. And that helps explain why Disney has become tarnished. They've become so loved that they put all their effort into selling than creating and that's cost them way too many mistakes so far. They really need to wake up and smell the coffee soon, they've been loosing so much money. I mean, not statistically speaking but when you think about it. You can't create a whole world for an hour and a half movie and then try to make a sequel without looking at every single thing that went into the making of the first. It's hard because it's not like one person thinks it up, so many people went into the making of that movie, so many tiny tiny details are spur of the moment things, each character can probably be credited to at least three people in terms of who decided to give them that nose or those bangs or make them blue instead of orange. There's so much thought that goes into an animated film, especially Disney classics, it's incredible. That's why you can't just want a story, you need to have a story. And then once you find that story, you need to develop and develop and develop until every possible thought has been answered. Even if all the same people who worked on TLM had worked on TLM2 shortly after TLm came out, there's still a good chance it wouldn't be as good. Once you create something that is greatly loved, those who love it get defensive/protective when it is expanded. sorry for the long shpeal, hope it's understood. Oh it was (and a very good/informative post at that), trust me, and pretty much what you just said, proved my point. You just said that even if ALL of the people who worked on TLM worked on TLM II, it still wouldn't be as good. Well, it's because of what I just said about Disney movies. However, does that mean we should not enjoy it for what it is? Also, and like I said, in order for TLM to be 'tarnished' it would have to be hurt, destroyed, etc..., and the sequel and prequel did NOT do that.
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Jan 6, 2009 0:00:42 GMT -5
Post by fridamoonbeam on Jan 6, 2009 0:00:42 GMT -5
Okies. I LOVE TLM so much. Ariel has always been a character close to my heart, mostly cause I see so much of myself in her, like I think a lot of people here do.
None of sequels have been nearly as good. TLM2 was absurd in every possible sense of the word. TLM3 was cute, but left me very unsatisfied. They never bring up HOW Ariel came to be so fasinated by humans, which was such a driving force of the first movie. Some of the poor sisters ended up getting botched. And I can't choose weather Marina or Morgana was a worse villain! LOL
At this point; I wouldn't entirely be objected to a sequel given that I love the characters. HOWEVER, it would have to be something that had a lot of thought and work put into it. Which I doubt will happen.
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Jan 6, 2009 0:27:55 GMT -5
Post by DanTheMan on Jan 6, 2009 0:27:55 GMT -5
Okies. I LOVE TLM so much. Ariel has always been a character close to my heart, mostly cause I see so much of myself in her, like I think a lot of people here do. None of sequels have been nearly as good. TLM2 was absurd in every possible sense of the word. TLM3 was cute, but left me very unsatisfied. They never bring up HOW Ariel came to be so fasinated by humans, which was such a driving force of the first movie. Some of the poor sisters ended up getting botched. And I can't choose weather Marina or Morgana was a worse villain! LOL At this point; I wouldn't entirely be objected to a sequel given that I love the characters. HOWEVER, it would have to be something that had a lot of thought and work put into it. Which I doubt will happen. Actually, the TV series explained how Ariel became fascinated with humans. It was during the episode where everyone though a boot was a weapon of destruction. Before that, Ariel was very scared of humans, however, once she saw Eric save that Dolphin from the net, she though 'hmm humans aren't so bad' which then most likely started her facsination. Hope that explained it. Oh, and how was TLM II 'absurd?'
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TLM4
Jan 6, 2009 1:18:11 GMT -5
Post by fridamoonbeam on Jan 6, 2009 1:18:11 GMT -5
She might have been scared, but she still was intrigued as what people often are by what they fear. So I didn't really see that as where it started so much as got amplified. lolz
As far as TLM2.... Where do I start? LOL
The whole concept was ridicules. Morgana's attack could have been handled WAY better. Triton could have taken care of her then and there with the trident. He had a lot of opportunities in that time. With the poor choices he made at that point, I would seriously doubt his abilities as a ruler.
Ariel and Eric were almost as stupid as Triton was, sadly. And they kind of botched their personalities. If they were so concerned about Melody's safety; then why did they not try and maybe hide her in the way the Stefan did with Aurora so Maleficent wouldn't find her? Morgana knew where she LIVED. It's just foolish to assume that she couldn't at some point turn herself into a human and disguise herself as a maid, sneak into the castle and take Melody.
WHY not tell Melody about her mother's past? Wouldn't educating her help her understand the whys of everything. Instead they completely sheltered her and lied to her for twelve years of her life. Granted Eric saw it coming, but it was STILL unjustified. I don't see them doing that for TWELVE years, it just didn't seem to be in either Ariel or Eric's character.
Oh, and simply because I love Ariel and Eric together, and wished they had a few more scenes one on one. ^^
There's probably more I can say about but it's late now XD
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Jan 6, 2009 5:58:03 GMT -5
Post by Random Prince on Jan 6, 2009 5:58:03 GMT -5
As far as TLM2.... Where do I start? LOL The whole concept was ridicules. Morgana's attack could have been handled WAY better. Triton could have taken care of her then and there with the trident. He had a lot of opportunities in that time. With the poor choices he made at that point, I would seriously doubt his abilities as a ruler. Ariel and Eric were almost as stupid as Triton was, sadly. And they kind of botched their personalities. If they were so concerned about Melody's safety; then why did they not try and maybe hide her in the way the Stefan did with Aurora so Maleficent wouldn't find her? Morgana knew where she LIVED. It's just foolish to assume that she couldn't at some point turn herself into a human and disguise herself as a maid, sneak into the castle and take Melody. WHY not tell Melody about her mother's past? Wouldn't educating her help her understand the whys of everything. Instead they completely sheltered her and lied to her for twelve years of her life. Granted Eric saw it coming, but it was STILL unjustified. I don't see them doing that for TWELVE years, it just didn't seem to be in either Ariel or Eric's character. But TLM is all about making mistakes because you love somebody. Triton reacted to Ariel's fascination with the human world in the worst way possible, but only because he wanted her to be safe. Ariel was wrong to make the bargain with Ursula, but she did it to be with Eric. In both cases the repercussions were nearly devastating, but their intentions were good and once they recognised their mistakes, everything turned out ok. TLM2 just continues the theme of the first movie. Ariel's desire to protect her daughter causes her to make bad decisions and Melody's secret love of the ocean makes her behave recklessly. If everybody behaved completely rationally, there would be no story and the characters would seem less honest and genuine. It may be unlikely that the situation in the first movie would be allowed to happen all over again, but at least the sequel aims to keep the characters' personalities true to the original. TLM3 was the opposite. They completely butchered the characters to fit a story that didn't make any sense. After seeing that, I really hope there won't be another movie. :(
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TLM4
Jan 6, 2009 9:31:09 GMT -5
Post by fridamoonbeam on Jan 6, 2009 9:31:09 GMT -5
But the thing about TLM is that people actually learned from their experiences along the way and grow. After all that; Ariel and Eric would SERIOUSLY consider what they were doing with Melody. She's their kid! Of course she's going to question things and have her own thoughts. XD LOL True, people do make mistakes. However this was so poorly done that premise was lost in meaning.
TLM2 was a cheap, rushed way of ripping off their original idea. The execution was... bad. There was no where near the thought or love that was placed into the first one. imho
I would have prefered they left the script on the desk....
As for TLM3; I missed the old Arista! XD I didn't like that they made her so ditsy, and Flounder was all wrong. XD
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Jan 6, 2009 17:45:36 GMT -5
Post by DanTheMan on Jan 6, 2009 17:45:36 GMT -5
She might have been scared, but she still was intrigued as what people often are by what they fear. So I didn't really see that as where it started so much as got amplified. lolz Really? Before that episode, she really didn't show any interest in humans, other than her being scared. You could tell you in that episode that she was terrified of them. As far as TLM2.... Where do I start? LOL The whole concept was ridicules. Morgana's attack could have been handled WAY better. Triton could have taken care of her then and there with the trident. He had a lot of opportunities in that time. With the poor choices he made at that point, I would seriously doubt his abilities as a ruler. Well, to be honest, you have to realize that this is a fantasy, and things aren't always going to go logically. I mean, look at TLM, not everything in that movie was logical. If Triton would've taken out Morgana right then and there, then there really wouldn't be a movie plot. Triton also made some poor choices in the first movie, but I don't think that took anything away from the movie. Heck, if you want to get technical, he made poor choices during the TV series as well lol.. Ariel and Eric were almost as stupid as Triton was, sadly. And they kind of botched their personalities. If they were so concerned about Melody's safety; then why did they not try and maybe hide her in the way the Stefan did with Aurora so Maleficent wouldn't find her? Morgana knew where she LIVED. It's just foolish to assume that she couldn't at some point turn herself into a human and disguise herself as a maid, sneak into the castle and take Melody. I agree with botching Eric, they tried to make him more outgoing, like Ariel, but it flopped, however, I don't see how they botched Ariel at all. She still had her personality that we love, but it was also mixed in with her being a mother. I don't think they screwed up there. I don't know what you're talking about with Aurora here, so I can't comment, however, hiding her would basically have the same result as it did in TLM II. WHY not tell Melody about her mother's past? Wouldn't educating her help her understand the whys of everything. Instead they completely sheltered her and lied to her for twelve years of her life. Granted Eric saw it coming, but it was STILL unjustified. I don't see them doing that for TWELVE years, it just didn't seem to be in either Ariel or Eric's character. Hence why it was a mistake, and like Prince said, it was a theme of the first movie as well. Ariel/Eric made a mistake, and they learned from it later on in the movie. Just like Triton made the mistake of destroying the statue in the first movie, which caused Ariel to do what she did, it was the same thing in this movie, except it was Ariel on the other end. I personally don't see the problem here. But the thing about TLM is that people actually learned from their experiences along the way and grow. After all that; Ariel and Eric would SERIOUSLY consider what they were doing with Melody. She's their kid! Of course she's going to question things and have her own thoughts. XD LOL True, people do make mistakes. However this was so poorly done that premise was lost in meaning. And Ariel/Eric didn't learn from the mistake they made in TLM II? I think they did, as the ending basically shows. I don't see how this was 'poorly' done, seeing as how it was basically the same situation that Triton had with Ariel in the first movie. This is the first time I'm hearing that TLM III actually wasn't that good, seeing as how I've been hearing from others that it wasn't that bad. I haven't seen it yet though.
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Jan 6, 2009 20:34:18 GMT -5
Post by fridamoonbeam on Jan 6, 2009 20:34:18 GMT -5
I do realize this is a work of fiction, but you can't just throw logic out the door. Precisely my point. The plot was just a mess. I know not everything in TLM was perfect, I said that earlier, but it made much more sense. There was nothing in the original movie that said Eric was a shut in. He clearly had a lot of friends with the sailors, like adventuring on the seas, enjoyed taking Ariel on a tour. Even if that was the case, Ariel deffinately could brought that side of him out. However, Ariel was made into her father, really. And we didn't get to see the real side of her until near the end. What I'm refering to with Aurora was that she was taken and raised a peasent girl, because she could be easily found if she was in the caslte, but as a normal girl, she could be anywhere and that would have thrown Morgana off. See? Their experience from the first one should have made them know the importance of not sheltering someone, and letting them be who they are. It shouldn't take a nother horrifying ordeal to finally get some sense into them. It was tacky for them to use a lot of the same story line. Not much originality. I can't like something simply because it has Ariel and Eric in it. This is jmho on the matter, I don't expect everyone to think like I do, just to make my insight clear
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Jan 7, 2009 14:07:13 GMT -5
Post by Random Prince on Jan 7, 2009 14:07:13 GMT -5
I can't like something simply because it has Ariel and Eric in it. I can as long as the characters are represented accurately and honestly, and not manipulated or exploited. TLM2 was pretty good in that respect, although I agree the story wasn't the best idea. However, after seeing TLM3, it seems the people in charge at Disney no longer have any integrity or appreciation for the people who made the characters so popular in the first place. I hate to think what it would have been like if Jodi hadn't stood up for all the people who actually care. I would love to see more of TLM if it's going to be good quality -stories written by people who are familiar with the characters and preferably songs by Michael Silversher who worked on the TV series and TLM2. But if it's only going to be obnoxious and shoddy like TLM3, I think it would be best just to end it now and let TLM keep some dignity like Steph said.
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Jan 9, 2009 18:33:09 GMT -5
Post by DanTheMan on Jan 9, 2009 18:33:09 GMT -5
With Disney, yeah, you pretty much can do that. That's what makes a lot of them as good as they are, because of the storytelling, and fantasy. Not the logic.
I never said he was a 'shut in' but in the first movie, he was a stoic character, however, they changed that in TLM II. Ariel wasn't 'made' into her father, but she was given some of Tritons' charactertistics. However, she was far less strict, not even close to Triton.
I would call that a 'spur of the moment' moment. At that time, Ariel thought it was the right decision. Also, it also goes to the point, that you won't know how you would react until you're in their shoes, meaning Tritons'.
Like RP said, I can as well, as long as the characters are the same. Also, even if they didn't use the same storyline, then people would complain that they didn't. It's one of those lose/lose situations, because peoples' expectations were too high.
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Jan 12, 2009 13:58:27 GMT -5
Post by fridamoonbeam on Jan 12, 2009 13:58:27 GMT -5
That can be done with certain things, with there being magic and all. As well as 'Why Ariel survived the fall into the whirlpool' 'Why Le Fou didn't keel over from frost bite, waiting for days outside of Belle and Maurice's home' among other things. But to base an entire plot over something that could be easily solved and draw it out, is just poor writing and story telling. imho
Just saying, he wasn't a complete wallflower as many make him out to be. He had a lot of layers to his personality, not just stoic.
And as far as Ariel went; most of Eric's kingdom would have HAD to have known about merpeople. The only real way for them to not have her find out is if she was basically in the castle most of the time. And THAT'S way too strict. It really hurt Melody and played into why she was so socially awkward. I felt bad for her character.
When you have twelve years to change things or tell the truth I certainly wouldn't call that a 'spur of the moment' decision. She could have re-thought it at any time Spur of the moment decisions are based off of if you choose to hit the gas on your car to speed up, things you CAN'T undo are in that category.
That's pretty much been my point XD I thought the character choices for Ariel and Eric went against a lot of what they were about in the first movie. That disappointed me. Plus Ariel and Eric were more intelligent than to live in such a state of paranoia.
And if they can't come up with a decent story, then I don't want a squeal at all. I love the characters and believe they deserve better.
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Jan 13, 2009 0:06:27 GMT -5
Post by macgregor on Jan 13, 2009 0:06:27 GMT -5
TLM2 kept true to the characters but like fridamoonbeam was saying it's been dumbed down because Disney knows their main audience for straight to dvd sequels are children. Disney now caters to children before anyone else. Going back to what DanTheMan was saying about 'hurting' a fictional universe, making a sequel for children from a movie, while suitable for children, was made for all audiences will cut the number of fans dramatically. Disney's biggest mistake when it comes to sequels is targeting them towards children, but who can blame them- they've looked at the numbers, they know that their straight-to-dvd movies will sell to kids because a) kids love Disney and b) if you release something straight to dvd you cut the number of views in half if not more. They know that there will always be kids in the world so why not sell to an endless buyer? But because that buyer is children, they feel they have to make the movie for them instead of just ok for them, and they do that by dumbing down, making it predictable and having it look as similar to it's predecessor as possible.
I completely agree about TLM3 and the change of characters to fit the story. I was dissapointed with that. DanTheMan, going back to what you were saying about hurting TLM would be the only way to tarnish it, hurt is open to many definitions. I see making a childish movie following a thought provoking one a hurtful move. While it doesn't actually hurt TLM1, it doesn't do it justice and in that sense it's one less movie to make me smile about when thinking of TLM. Now, it's all a matter of opinion at that point. If you still have the original how can you do bad? Well, disspleasing the fans is worse than not giving them anything at all. It's about opportunities. Disney won't make a million TLM movies because they'll only make as many as they see they can get a fair enough amount of money for. Disney is a business so they produce things to make money. It's because of how they run that business that affects how things are made and who can and can't enjoy those things. It's more complicated than 'it's bad because of this'.
I'd love for their to be a 4th TLM but like RandomPrince said only if it's good quality and true to TLm's passt. Therefore I hope that TLM4, if ever made, doesn't come out for a long time(and that the time leading up to it's release is used for making it incredible >.<). I guess like every Disney fan above the age of 10, I'm hoping Disney gets a wake up call ASAP and starts doing things for the fans and their history, not for the money and what would sell best(because pleasing fans sells best when it comes to Disney products...DUH!)
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Jan 13, 2009 20:28:54 GMT -5
Post by DanTheMan on Jan 13, 2009 20:28:54 GMT -5
Well, to be fair, the decision was made shortly after Melody was born, therefore, it was a spur of the moment decision. Now, Ariel could've changed her mind during those twelve years, but by not getting any sort of resentment (spelling?) from Melody, she probably thought that she was doing the right thing.
See, I think you hit the nail right here, not with the hurting part, but with ' it doesn't do it justice.' That I completely agree with, totally. However, 'hurting' not so much. 'Hurt' is basically a matter of opinion, and if it were that this would hurt TLM franchise, then people would be looking at TLM franchise with a different point of view. No one will do that, they will still love the characters, and the first movie, therefore, I don't see how the franchise would be, or have been hurt. Maybe the individual movies, but not the franchise in general. However, we'll never know until it comes out, and it may not.
I completely agree with what you're saying about Disney. They have completely lost the picture entirely, in my opinion, actually no, it's not, it's the truth. The fact that all of the old Disney characters have their movies/shows go straight to DVD, instead of hitting theaters, is an insult. That stuff I would bet sells more than Hannah Montana, or High School Musical, of course, I don't have the actual numbers. That's just my opinion. The old stuff still draws a lot, and since Disney cares about money more than anything else, you would think they would be promoting it. Man, I need to run Disney lol..
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Jan 16, 2009 3:53:55 GMT -5
Post by macgregor on Jan 16, 2009 3:53:55 GMT -5
Seriously! I hate how Disney has focused all their energy on Hannah Montanna and High School Musical. They really are all about what's selling the hottest and that's unfortunate. You're right about the classics being able to make just as much if not more if they put their effort into it. I mean, Walt Disney was all about the future and being at the top of the line with things, but Disney nowadays does it for the price instead of the love of the new.
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Jan 16, 2009 14:37:20 GMT -5
Post by DanTheMan on Jan 16, 2009 14:37:20 GMT -5
Seriously! I hate how Disney has focused all their energy on Hannah Montanna and High School Musical. They really are all about what's selling the hottest and that's unfortunate. You're right about the classics being able to make just as much if not more if they put their effort into it. I mean, Walt Disney was all about the future and being at the top of the line with things, but Disney nowadays does it for the price instead of the love of the new. To be fair, it isn't just Disney. Society today has basically changed into that. TV has changed, with reality TV dominating, and stations like Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network have all changed as well. Those really can't be saved, but what makes me mad about Disney is that they have a chance, and they won't even look at it.
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Jan 16, 2009 15:42:52 GMT -5
Post by macgregor on Jan 16, 2009 15:42:52 GMT -5
I know, these times are pathetic. But I'm kind of glad because in a few years(if even) we'll all stop and take a good look at everything and say 'really? everything is like this?' and then they'll be a wave of what 'should' be next and out of that will rise the new and I have high hopes for that new.
Once Snow White hits 100years I'm sure Disney will get a wake up call, but hopefully it won't take that long.
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Jan 16, 2009 15:49:54 GMT -5
Post by DanTheMan on Jan 16, 2009 15:49:54 GMT -5
Maybe if Hannah screws up her career, Disney might get some sort of a wake up call, because I'm pretty sure HSM is done, since they all graduated.
Hopefully I'm still around when Snow White turns 100 lol..
I've already taken a look, and went 'wow, this is what's cool today?' That's why I embrace everything I grew up with.
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