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Coco
Dec 3, 2017 22:40:53 GMT -5
Post by merprincess on Dec 3, 2017 22:40:53 GMT -5
Disney-Pixar really outdid themselves, go see this film everyone! It's best if you go into it blind, I avoided all trailers and synopses and had no clue what to expect besides the few teaser clips and posters/images I couldn't really avoid. It's a very special film that just blew me away (and the Frozen featurette before the film isn't as bad as social media would have you think, it's actually quite sweet! just a bit long in anticipation for Coco, but adorable and harmless). And bring tissues! I teared up and cried at two moments involving the same song at two different emotional points of the film- totally was not expecting myself to get emotional too but alas I did. If you've seen it, I'd love to hear your thoughts and opinions in this thread or in messages, I really don't want to get too spoiler-y until most folks have seen it, so if it's out in theaters wherever you live I highly recommend you go and see it soon! 😍
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Coco
Dec 6, 2017 4:28:14 GMT -5
Post by buckmana on Dec 6, 2017 4:28:14 GMT -5
Bizaardvark tie-in music video:
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Coco
Dec 6, 2017 17:23:38 GMT -5
Post by merprincess on Dec 6, 2017 17:23:38 GMT -5
buckmana that's cute! Dante was so so fun in the movie, and is great because a character like him could easily be perpetually the butt of every joke, but he gets to make an impact on the plot and his role changes a bit, it's really interesting and creative.
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Coco
Dec 6, 2017 18:45:08 GMT -5
Post by buckmana on Dec 6, 2017 18:45:08 GMT -5
I'm not sure what role Dante plays in the movie. Aside from the video above, the only other footage I've seen is this: That is why I was thinking he was a comic relief sidekick. And when you rewatch that video, pause when the skeleton hanging banners appear for a freeze frame bonus. They're not moving, but they are reacting to what is happening with expressions. But I think Dante's role does become more important later on in the movie. Unfortunately, there's not too much I can really mention about this movie, because almost anything I say with specific examples will be a plot spoiler. I am wondering if he truly is a hairless dog or not. Most hairless breeds still have a fine layer of fur, it's just not easily visible. And according to this article, it is possible for fully furred puppies of this breed to exist. I am wondering what plans they have for the Frozen featurette. The announcement here on Disney channel suggested the featurette would only be for the advance screenings and not shown with the regular Coco sessions. Still trying to make sense of that, I thought every Pixar or Disney movie came with a mini movie before the main feature now. Wondering how the commercial release will go later, whether the Frozen featurette will be sold independently or bundled with the DVD/media release later on as an "extra feature".
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Coco
Dec 7, 2017 2:01:49 GMT -5
Post by merprincess on Dec 7, 2017 2:01:49 GMT -5
buckmana The whole Frozen featurette debacle has been crazy! The movie theater I went to had a warning sign at the ticket booth saying something to the effect of "Viewers of Coco be warned there is a 21 minute Olaf short before the movie", and during the short the people around me were saying things like "is this the movie?" or "are we at the right movie?". People were confused, but I guess Disney marketed it as a short and when you think of a short that goes in front of a Disney-Pixar film, you think of those classic shorts like the old man playing chess, the Luxo Jr short, Knick Knack, Lava, and Paperman (not a Pixar short, but hey, looks like Disney does good shorts too, they've also got the one called Feast with the puppy and the one with the baby sandpiper that played before Moana). All of these are under 10 minutes, most around 3-5 minutes. So I can understand the frustration, especially for those really eager to see Coco who have to sit through several minutes of trailers and then a Frozen featurette to get to the movie. What I heard is that Disney didn't intend for the Frozen short to always play before Coco in theaters, it was a limited release short from the very beginning, so with this news of Disney "scrapping" it now only means that its limited release time has ended. I wonder if there will be another short in its place that is shorter, since it's hard to imagine a Pixar film without a short before it. The Frozen featurette, like I said, was really sweet and I particularly like what they did with the end of it. The songs were short but cute (Kristoff gets to really sing!!), there were many heartfelt moments, and it was just a nice time! I hope it gets a tv release, since it really felt like a tv holiday special (but with gorgeous animation you wouldn't expect from a tv holiday special). It'll probably be included in the DVD for Coco, and maybe future editions of the Frozen DVD? Back to Coco, like I said I LOVED it and would watch it again and again in a heartbeat. I actually really want to watch it in Spanish, since I do understand it (un poquito) from having taken Spanish over 6 years in school and elsewhere. Disney-Pixar did this clever thing where if you or your family want to see Coco but can't understand it in English and the theaters around you only show it in English (since a lot of Mexican families are really loving the film as it embraces their heritage and traditions beautifully), you can get an app for your phone and it'll sync in time with the movie, and you can put headphones in during the movie and in your ears through the app you'll get the Spanish dub of the film while still getting the experience of watching it at the cinema (I think most if not all of the original actors of the English version reprise their roles for the Spanish dub). I might try that just for fun if I get to see it in theaters again, unless some theaters do offer the Spanish dub. I didn't know about any of the characters when I went in - all I knew is that there was a boy and a guitar and the story had something to do with El Día de los Muertos, so everything was pleasant surprise after pleasant surprise.
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Coco
Dec 7, 2017 4:43:22 GMT -5
Post by buckmana on Dec 7, 2017 4:43:22 GMT -5
It's awesome to learn you know Spanish, it's always cool to have a second language. Out of curiosity, is speaking and reading two seperate things? I guess the no phone policy didn't apply to that session, they're fairly strict about not allowing them to be used in our cinemas. That's one of my personal irks, there's always someone so addicted to their phone they have it on right until the movie starts and as soon as the end credits start rolling, they have it out again. I assume the eventual release of Coco in dvd/media will include a multilingual track setting, they usually do. So there should be a setting for Spanish. I wonder if having the lead cast dub in two languages increased the production time beyond normal expectations. I would imagine if you have to record the same scene twice, it's going to make the recording studio time twice as long. I guess El Dia de los Muertos is the iconic local holiday, but I was curious to find out if there were other significant events in their calendar. Cinco de Mayo, Dia de la Independencia (independence days, when Mexico became a seperate country), Día de Nuestra Señora de Guadalupe and a lot of seasonal celebrations from early December to New Years' Day. We only celebrate Christmas once, it appears they celebrate it at least five times! Maybe in the future, someone will consider making a movie about one of those as well. The character Pepita reminded me of the Jaquins from Elena of Avalor. Maybe both of these was inspired by something in their culture I am unfamiliar with. Sounds like that Frozen special wasn't a true short, but a full length tv episode. It sounds like they used professional cinema quality CGI from the description. Given that fact, it sounds like they might release it as a seperate purchase and not include it in Coco's release. Which makes me wonder, is there a backup short to replace the Frozen special when they take it away? I usually get quite confused at the way they match up shorts to movies, sometimes they don't seem to match very well in terms of themes/concepts. Maybe the Dante's lunch short I linked above would be the replacement perhaps?
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Coco
Dec 7, 2017 5:23:56 GMT -5
Post by merprincess on Dec 7, 2017 5:23:56 GMT -5
I know a couple different languages! Just some bits and bobs here and there, I have had to learn many songs in Italian, French, German, and Latin, and I have to translated everything I sing so I can understand it and better communicate it, so key words and phrases from those languages really stick with me. But I'm only really fluent in English and Turkish (due to heritage, and technically Turkish is my first language but I've been speaking English longer) and I'm just about semi-fluent in Spanish from my schooling. For Spanish, for me at least, I read better than I speak. I can understand better than I speak as well. With Turkish, again I do read & understand better than I speak, but I can speak competently and hold conversation with family just fine. I find that when I use my languages outside of English in a place where lots of people are speaking the language, like in Mexico with Spanish or in Turkey with Turkish, my language skills improve a lot more quickly.
Our cinemas do a general "please silence your cell phones" message before the film and heavily imply that you shouldn't be looking at your phone during the film (and tbh who would want to anyway?), but people still do look at their phones from time to time because it's not heavily enforced. Sometimes, like in this case, the movie will have an interactive element where phones are encouraged to be used for a specific purpose to enhance your cinema experience, but that's pretty rare.
Mexico has a lot of different holidays from historical contexts, cultural traditions, and more. I've been there three times, never during a holiday season, but it's a beautiful country just so vibrant and full of life everywhere you go. I was even able to use my Spanish there, though I'm such a gringa (an American person, female in this case. further exemplified by me using the word 😂) and my Spanish would probably never be as natural as native speakers, but it's the effort and thought that counts! At least I was able to help my family when we'd get lost and needed directions, figuring out how the airport works, or the time I got us out of a speeding ticket lol - it really comes in handy!
Pepita reminded me of the Jaquins as well, I was thinking that during the film! The movie does take a small liberty there with the alebrijes like Pepita being spirit guides, but it serves the plot nicely and from what I've heard is being well-received by those of Mexican heritage. As is the entire film as a whole, it's been #1 in Mexico for quite some time, I think it may have released there first at a Mexican film festival.
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