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Post by buckmana on Jan 20, 2008 0:20:51 GMT -5
I recently acquired this game (yes, I know it's late ) and finally worked my way up to Atlantica. It is indeed impressive. One of Ariel's moves I found interesting to watch is a sort of spinning top corkscrew manuever. If I can get her to do it again (I'm not controlling Ariel), I'll see if I can post it as a video. And only if I can get that loser Goofy out of the way! Let Sora and Ariel play together!
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Post by tnadav1 on Jan 20, 2008 13:36:28 GMT -5
It's Kingdom Hearts (not Of),have fun playing it (if anyone got lost in the game you can ask me since i finished it so i can help ). I love Kingdom Hearts and Ariel was really good in the first (also she never die,i only saw her die twice). I was really gald she's not a Princess Of Heart (it's seven girl (Snow White,Cinderella,Aurora,Belle,Jasmine Alice and another one but i won't spoil,she's not from a Disney world) that their hearts can unlock the final keyhole) (i allready was angry that Snow White,Cinderella,Aurora,Belle,Jasmine and Alice died (well,they lost their hearts and later got them but still) and i was so happy that Ariel wasn't,they can kill Kairi but not the Princesses,espically not Aurora),it makes me mad that some Ariel fans wanted Ariel to be a Princess Of Heart insted of Alice (and they wanted Alice to die,that dosn't make any sense) thought they didn't played the game (they said it themselfs) which means they didn't knew they wanted her to die. Kingdom Hearts II was really disappointing ,Atlantica was just a bunch of annyoing musical mini games insted of fighting and there's 2 places-a coral reef and Triton's throne room and they ruined Ariel (it's like she allways needs Sora) the plot is on the film in there but still (and Sora and Sebastian dosn't help get a kiss,guess what they do? they're looking for Ursula to turn Ariel back into a mermaid insted of helping her get a kiss ). The magna was also bad,wanna hear about it?.
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Post by Prince Mike on Jan 20, 2008 19:45:24 GMT -5
I found the Atlantica level in KHII a lot of fun. I rock at the musical mini games, I can get excellent like everytime. And I still wishes Ariel could have been one of the Princesses of Heart, Alice didn't belong. And I don't think they technically died ***SPOILER*** when Kairi got her Heart removed she was still conscious, she just couldnt... do anything.***END SPOILER***
Ariel's fighting moves in the first game were really kick ass. She has a corkscrew thing, and a tail slapping move plus some healing techniques which helped. Sucks KHIII is gonna probably next gen console (PS3) which is a milliondy dollars.
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Post by Pacific Wolf on Jan 20, 2008 21:38:13 GMT -5
I think Ariel was the only party character I had that I never seen faint. Even though I was disappointed she wasn't a princess of heart, I'd rather have her join my party any day.
I had fun with it's part in KHII even if you don't get EXP or anything... I enjoyed those mini games more than the Pooh ones. I think people were complaining about the swimming control from the first one so this way you didn't have to swim as much.
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Post by Prince Mike on Jan 21, 2008 0:46:11 GMT -5
Ariel was the only party member I saw that DID NOT faint lol. I made sure to take extra good care of my girl. In a way I wish she was a POH (Princess of Heart) but at the same time I'm glad she wasn't.
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Post by tnadav1 on Jan 21, 2008 8:23:03 GMT -5
i really didn't wanted her as a Princess Of Heart,i"m so glad that she wasn't and i allready felt bad for Snow White,Cinderella,Aurora,Belle,Jasmine and Alice,i don't want Ariel to get kidnapped and killed,she's much better as a party member (and a Princess Of Heart means a girl with no darkness in her heart,it has nothing to do with the Disney Princesses,Alice more fits a Princess Of Heart then Ariel (and a Princess becouse the only one who isn't a Princess is Alice,the others are and besides-it's a better name then Girls Of Heart or something)). The mini games are fun but i much prefer Ariel fighting,the also ruined the story and Ariel's characters (they said in an interview that they had problems of the fighting of Kingdom Hearts II so they made those mini games insted). I played the game a lot and i did daw Ariel faint twice (only in the battel with giant Ursula).
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Post by pokeria1 on Jan 21, 2008 10:31:21 GMT -5
I may not have played any of the Kingdom Hearts games (I don't even own a PS2, among other things) I'll reply to this topic anyways, since I at least own the strategy guide for Kingdom Hearts and I participated on Gamefaqs' responses to the Game. i really didn't wanted her as a Princess Of Heart,i"m so glad that she wasn't and i allready felt bad for Snow White,Cinderella,Aurora,Belle,Jasmine and Alice,i don't want Ariel to get kidnapped and killed,she's much better as a party member (and a Princess Of Heart means a girl with no darkness in her heart,it has nothing to do with the Disney Princesses,Alice more fits a Princess Of Heart then Ariel (and a Princess becouse the only one who isn't a Princess is Alice,the others are and besides-it's a better name then Girls Of Heart or something)). Well, I can't say anything one way or another, but, I think it would have been good that she didn't "Die" so to speak. Besides, someone had to show you around atlantica and defend her as well as her father's kingdom from the Heartless. Yeah. I somewhat agree with you, they did ruin her and her friends in KHII. (I mean, for goodness sakes, They Made ARIEL the disney version of Knuckles the Echidna!!! [In case you are wondering what I mean, Knuckles, ever since his first appearance in Sonic the Hedgehog 3, always gets tricked by Dr. Eggman at one point or another, despite the mere fact that he should have known better afterwards.].). Plus, they (the writers, I mean, don't even get me started on how Ariel seemed to "Forget" the events of the past game!) seemed to UTTERLY FORGET "The Little Mermaid" Canon by having Ursula make the deal with Ariel in the Atlantican COURTYARD of all places. I mean, Ursula should NOT have been there in the first place considering how she was supposed to be EXILED from Atlantica! Honestly, some of the changes, Like Ariel's transformation, was understandable, since they would have gotten an M rating if they made it like the movie, if not Banned from the US shores, and I personally didn't mind that they removed two songs from it, but stuff like Ariel "Forgetting" the events from the Previous Game among other things? honestly, I don't know what they were thinking when they made this game. Speaking of Games, Off topic, but I'm quite surprised that "Endless Ocean" wasn't discussed on this board, the "Let's Talk Entertainment" board" or even the "Mysteries and treasures of the sea" board, considering that we have talked about the ocean before among other things even if it DIDN'T relate to "The Little Mermaid". Don't ask me to start a thread about it, though, because I haven't played the game yet, and even if I do get it, I may as well have to wait until summer vacation since by being a member of 6 boards as a whole (which includes 3 clubs in three of these boards), the amount of homework that I am getting, as well as my "Bring Misty Back onto the Main Cast of the Pokemon Anime"/"Annihilate the Typical Female Anime Stereotype" movement is going to really cut off most of my time. Anyways, that's all for now.
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Post by tnadav1 on Jan 22, 2008 13:09:15 GMT -5
I may not have played any of the Kingdom Hearts games (I don't even own a PS2, among other things) I'll reply to this topic anyways, since I at least own the strategy guide for Kingdom Hearts and I participated on Gamefaqs' responses to the Game. i really didn't wanted her as a Princess Of Heart,i"m so glad that she wasn't and i allready felt bad for Snow White,Cinderella,Aurora,Belle,Jasmine and Alice,i don't want Ariel to get kidnapped and killed,she's much better as a party member (and a Princess Of Heart means a girl with no darkness in her heart,it has nothing to do with the Disney Princesses,Alice more fits a Princess Of Heart then Ariel (and a Princess becouse the only one who isn't a Princess is Alice,the others are and besides-it's a better name then Girls Of Heart or something)). Well, I can't say anything one way or another, but, I think it would have been good that she didn't "Die" so to speak. Besides, someone had to show you around atlantica and defend her as well as her father's kingdom from the Heartless. Yeah. I somewhat agree with you, they did ruin her and her friends in KHII. (I mean, for goodness sakes, They Made ARIEL the disney version of Knuckles the Echidna!!! [In case you are wondering what I mean, Knuckles, ever since his first appearance in Sonic the Hedgehog 3, always gets tricked by Dr. Eggman at one point or another, despite the mere fact that he should have known better afterwards.].). Plus, they (the writers, I mean, don't even get me started on how Ariel seemed to "Forget" the events of the past game!) seemed to UTTERLY FORGET "The Little Mermaid" Canon by having Ursula make the deal with Ariel in the Atlantican COURTYARD of all places. I mean, Ursula should NOT have been there in the first place considering how she was supposed to be EXILED from Atlantica! Honestly, some of the changes, Like Ariel's transformation, was understandable, since they would have gotten an M rating if they made it like the movie, if not Banned from the US shores, and I personally didn't mind that they removed two songs from it, but stuff like Ariel "Forgetting" the events from the Previous Game among other things? honestly, I don't know what they were thinking when they made this game. Speaking of Games, Off topic, but I'm quite surprised that "Endless Ocean" wasn't discussed on this board, the "Let's Talk Entertainment" board" or even the "Mysteries and treasures of the sea" board, considering that we have talked about the ocean before among other things even if it DIDN'T relate to "The Little Mermaid". Don't ask me to start a thread about it, though, because I haven't played the game yet, and even if I do get it, I may as well have to wait until summer vacation since by being a member of 6 boards as a whole (which includes 3 clubs in three of these boards), the amount of homework that I am getting, as well as my "Bring Misty Back onto the Main Cast of the Pokemon Anime"/"Annihilate the Typical Female Anime Stereotype" movement is going to really cut off most of my time. Anyways, that's all for now. I"m so glad you agree with me . Yeah,they need to help her save Atlantica from the Heartless and she needs to fight,i"m really happy that she's not a Princess Of Heart. Yeah,they ruined them i don't get what of Ariel forget what happend in the first game and you're right about Ursula,they just ignored that. Also Sora was really annyoing,he and Sebastian didn't helped Ariel get Eric to kiss her! insted they looked for Ursula to turn Ariel back into a mermaid! (and later Ariel thanked him,what for? he didn't helped her at all!) he even wanted to tell Triton about the whole thing and helped Sebastian convice Ariel to stay a mermaid,this is really annyoing.
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Post by macgregor on Jan 22, 2008 20:50:43 GMT -5
i've never played the games since i don't like video games but i've loooved watching the videos on youtube XD ariel looks really great, it's awsome to see atlantica in motion again. i wonder if she'll be in the movie they're making? have you guys seen the action figure line form Kingdom Hearts? incredible 4" little figurines from all the worlds, and a good handful form TLM special pearl casting: and the newest that i'd LOVE to get my hands on.. there is also one of her in the pink dress though i can't seem to find a picture, and possibley another ursual as well. i could have sworn there was one of her in the blue dress and even one of eric when these came out about a year ago, but i cna't recall. i love figurines^^
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Post by tnadav1 on Jan 23, 2008 11:10:42 GMT -5
The Ariel and Mer-Sora one is really great but i don't think that the others are from Kingdom Hearts line (espically not the one of Ariel in wedding dress with scuttle since he never appeard in Kingdom Hearts but she had a wedding dress in the Kingdom Hearts 2 credits).
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Post by macgregor on Jan 23, 2008 18:10:56 GMT -5
The Ariel and Mer-Sora one is really great but i don't think that the others are from Kingdom Hearts line (espically not the one of Ariel in wedding dress with scuttle since he never appeard in Kingdom Hearts but she had a wedding dress in the Kingdom Hearts 2 credits). it was the same line as kingdom hearts since they did sora and goofy and donald as well as all the other characters in the game, including jack and sally, although she didn't wear it in the game. i think they made the wedding dress one 'cause they thought it would sell i was wrong about the pink dress though, that was form another toy line.
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Post by buckmana on Jan 24, 2008 2:50:59 GMT -5
Ariel's fighting moves in the first game were really kick ass. She has a corkscrew thing, and a tail slapping move plus some healing techniques which helped. On the subject of that corkscrew move, I made this movie: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rv4teXCNSqYI think people were complaining about the swimming control from the first one so this way you didn't have to swim as much. I liked it. I haven't got to Atlantica yet in KH2, so I don't know what it's like. I think Ariel was the only party character I had that I never seen faint. Even though I was disappointed she wasn't a princess of heart, I'd rather have her join my party any day. Ariel was the only party member I saw that DID NOT faint lol. I made sure to take extra good care of my girl. In a way I wish she was a POH (Princess of Heart) but at the same time I'm glad she wasn't. I eventually discovered why. Ariel has healing powers. During a battle with Ursula, I took the wrong approach to defeating her. Having run out of health potions, I thought it was over and stopped fighting. I was rather puzzled to see Sora's health returning on it's own. Then I realized Ariel was doing it. The second time around, I noticed she can do it for Goofy too. Maybe she does it for herself as well. I wish I had her to help with Ansem (in Riku's body). I've had to stop playing, because I'm unable to beat him. I have the skill to wear him down, but don't have enough magic and health potions to use. And the cheater attacks everytime I try to heal Sora, finishing him off! That POH thing was creepy. I'm glad Ariel isn't one of them. I also thought it was interesting that Ariel can use lightning strikes as an alternative attack. Daddy's little girl. Here's a shorter video I made, also from the game: www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAbG8nVDdf4And the newest that i'd LOVE to get my hands on.. Grrr!!!!!! More Ariel merchandise I can't get! They don't have it in Australia! And I still wishes Ariel could have been one of the Princesses of Heart, Alice didn't belong. I don't get that. I thought Alice was an ordinary girl. But maybe it was more about the power of your heart then your actual title. I still couldn't identify half of the Princesses of Heart. Kairi is a given. I recognized Jasmine, Belle and Alice. I'm not sure who the other three were.
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Post by tnadav1 on Jan 24, 2008 6:28:02 GMT -5
Ariel's fighting moves in the first game were really kick ass. She has a corkscrew thing, and a tail slapping move plus some healing techniques which helped. On the subject of that corkscrew move, I made this movie: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rv4teXCNSqYI liked it. I haven't got to Atlantica yet in KH2, so I don't know what it's like. I eventually discovered why. Ariel has healing powers. During a battle with Ursula, I took the wrong approach to defeating her. Having run out of health potions, I thought it was over and stopped fighting. I was rather puzzled to see Sora's health returning on it's own. Then I realized Ariel was doing it. The second time around, I noticed she can do it for Goofy too. Maybe she does it for herself as well. I wish I had her to help with Ansem (in Riku's body). I've had to stop playing, because I'm unable to beat him. I have the skill to wear him down, but don't have enough magic and health potions to use. And the cheater attacks everytime I try to heal Sora, finishing him off! That POH thing was creepy. I'm glad Ariel isn't one of them. I also thought it was interesting that Ariel can use lightning strikes as an alternative attack. Daddy's little girl. Here's a shorter video I made, also from the game: www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAbG8nVDdf4Grrr!!!!!! More Ariel merchandise I can't get! They don't have it in Australia! And I still wishes Ariel could have been one of the Princesses of Heart, Alice didn't belong. I don't get that. I thought Alice was an ordinary girl. But maybe it was more about the power of your heart then your actual title. I still couldn't identify half of the Princesses of Heart. Kairi is a given. I recognized Jasmine, Belle and Alice. I'm not sure who the other three were. Good point about the health . Yeah,it is creepy,i"m glad you're also happy that she's not one of them agree about Alice (again,POH is just a girl with no darkness,not a Disney Princess,it has nothing to do with Princesses). About the Princesses-the others were Snow White,Cinderella and Aurora (from Sleeping Beauty). Did you killed Dragon Maleficent? (she's the hardest,Beast isn't good as Ariel). Thanks for the video . In Kingdom Hearts II insted of fighting you play some mini games that you have to press the right button and the right time.
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Post by tnadav1 on Jan 24, 2008 6:37:38 GMT -5
The Ariel and Mer-Sora one is really great but i don't think that the others are from Kingdom Hearts line (espically not the one of Ariel in wedding dress with scuttle since he never appeard in Kingdom Hearts but she had a wedding dress in the Kingdom Hearts 2 credits). it was the same line as kingdom hearts since they did sora and goofy and donald as well as all the other characters in the game, including jack and sally, although she didn't wear it in the game. i think they made the wedding dress one 'cause they thought it would sell i was wrong about the pink dress though, that was form another toy line. Are you sure it's the same line or same company?. Anyway she does wear her wedding dress in the Kingdom Hearts II credits but Scuttle didn't appeard in any of the Kingdom Hearts games.
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Post by Pacific Wolf on Jan 25, 2008 1:17:22 GMT -5
I believe why Ariel doesn't faint is because she has MP Rage which has been a saving ablitiy for me. Too bad Sora doesn't get it until lv 57 or something but yeah, I find it useful when you need to use cure alot. I was also surprised she has thunder attacks but the Triton comparison works for me.
I thought that battle with Ansem!Riku was the hardest... not to mention sitting through a long cut scene over and over each time you fail.
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Post by buckmana on Jan 25, 2008 8:19:15 GMT -5
Did you killed Dragon Maleficent? (she's the hardest,Beast isn't good as Ariel). That was hard! But I found a tactic that worked. I hid on one of the roots, allowing Goofy and Beast to soften her up. Then I called Tinkerbell and went to town on Maleficient. I'm not sure what Tink was doing (little busy smashing dragon head!), but whatever she was doing, it helped! All my other summons were useless in this case. I thought that battle with Ansem!Riku was the hardest... not to mention sitting through a long cut scene over and over each time you fail. Oh yeah, I've given up now that I've reached that point. On another forum, someone told me about a Keyblade variant that eases the battle. But I don't have it. And it's likely I never will if I didn't find it before now. I'm focussing on the sequel now. I might replay Halloween Town and record that too. But there's nothing else I can do, because I can't defeat either Ansem or Hercules to continue the parts I left unfinished.
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Post by tnadav1 on Jan 25, 2008 10:02:54 GMT -5
Did you killed Dragon Maleficent? (she's the hardest,Beast isn't good as Ariel). That was hard! But I found a tactic that worked. I hid on one of the roots, allowing Goofy and Beast to soften her up. Then I called Tinkerbell and went to town on Maleficient. I'm not sure what Tink was doing (little busy smashing dragon head!), but whatever she was doing, it helped! All my other summons were useless in this case. That's what i did! (altought i used all the summons,but Tink is the best,she heals Sora and the others). she's the hardest. I remember AnsemRiku,he was very hard but Dragon Maleficent was the hardest. Hercules in the first? he's not hard,you just throw pots at him when he's resting and avoiding him when he runs to you. How's the sequel? have you been in Atlantica or Port Royal?. I comepleted the first and the sequel togather (i was stuck near the end (in or AnsemRiku or the last battle) when II came out and before i got the final battle in II i decided to finish the first one first and when i did i finished II.
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Post by WickedElphie on Jan 26, 2008 22:58:40 GMT -5
I love the Kingdom Hearts games.
For fun in Atlantica in KH2 purposefully mess up some of the buttons and watch what happens.
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Post by buckmana on Feb 1, 2008 0:44:17 GMT -5
That's what i did! (although I used all the summons, but Tink is the best,she heals Sora and the others). I thought she was doing something like that, but couldn't watch to see what she was doing. I always thought when Tink appeared, the other two disappeared. I remember AnsemRiku, he was very hard but Dragon Maleficent was the hardest. I always found the bigger enemies were easier to defeat. There are places you can go to be "safe" from them. The ones I used most were underneath them and up on their back. These are less effective with Maleficient dragon, but they still work. Hercules in the first? he's not hard,you just throw pots at him when he's resting and avoiding him when he runs to you. By the time I've reached this point, I have no health left. I've found it's impossible to dodge Herc and throw the barrels too. How's the sequel? have you been in Atlantica or Port Royal?. I completed the first and the sequel together (I was stuck near the end (in or AnsemRiku or the last battle) when II came out and before I got the final battle in II i decided to finish the first one first and when I did I finished II. Yes, I've been to both those places. But I'm not a fan of Pirate of the Carribeans, so that place was meaningless to me. Atlantica was a big disappointment. I like the concept, but the implementation was flawed. I never managed to hit the "sweet spot" in time or often enough. After ruining three songs, I decided to leave and not come back. And it looks like I'm not going to be able to finish KH2 either. I've gotten to the battle with Demyx and keep losing. I managed to defeat the required number of water shapes in a timed challenge by using reaction a lot. But after fighting him for a long time, a 10 second timer appears. I beat 9 water shapes and was fighting the tenth when the timer expired. After getting to this point and failing again, I gave up. Here's a comic someone on another forum shared with me: i28.tinypic.com/b4azjq.jpgAnd it seems accurate! Having experienced this "plateau" problem a lot recently (although it seems to occur more in PS2 games and PC games designed around console portability), I'm wondering who the companies hire to test the games. I've been playing computer games for over ten years and I can't succeed. What foolish person playtester says "This is too easy, make it harder". :(
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Post by Prince Mike on Feb 2, 2008 7:06:39 GMT -5
If you can't do certain spots, I always go back to a past level that has semi high level Heartless and just fight a BUTTLOAD of them until I level up a lot.
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