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Post by Zavi on Jan 21, 2009 17:20:39 GMT -5
Hmm...Honestly I'm not sure a traditional full length fic with that pairing would hold my interest. Not that you wouldn't do a great job, I''m just not sure it would be my cup of tea. Personally I'd prefer a series of short self-contained "scenes" if anything. That way you wouldn't have to focus on a central plot and could just explore the dynamic from a lot of different angles. Of course it's ultimatly your decision. Oh-About Things We Don't plan For: How's the next chapter coming along? Well, that about sums up everything I was going to say. Every word of it. XD
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Post by fridamoonbeam on Jan 22, 2009 1:41:51 GMT -5
Lolz, that all makes sense. The self-contained scenes would be more fun to write. And it would kind of spare me a head of writter's block I only reserve for my Eric/Ariel stories XD BTW, Chapter 3 is up! I hope I mananged to throw you guys for a loop.
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Post by WickedElphie on Jan 23, 2009 17:14:05 GMT -5
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Post by fridamoonbeam on Jan 26, 2009 0:48:08 GMT -5
Oh, I love that one-shot, and am curious at what place Belle is in her life. Okay, new question; Does anyone think Eric may have gone through tan 'awkward' stage where he wasn't so cute? Since he didn't seem to really notice how *smexy* he was. His personality may have set in first, then he didn't know when his hotness set in. It may also be where he learned that how a person looks isn't the most important thing. Or do you think it had to do with how he was brought up, and was just naturally humble
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Post by WickedElphie on Jan 26, 2009 1:27:49 GMT -5
A bit of both. I feel like he's always been good looking but went through a skinny all arms and legs stage before filling out.
But I think he's also just naturally sort of sweetly oblivious.
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Post by fridamoonbeam on Jan 26, 2009 10:09:16 GMT -5
THat makes sense to me. I think it's cute that he's oblivious at jsut the right times. lolz
Like maybe when he was told he was good looking he didn't really believe, thinking people only said it since he was a prince. Not that he cares that much ^^
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Post by Aquisha on Jan 26, 2009 17:24:22 GMT -5
As I usually do, I concur. I think there was a little bit of time when Eric was just a little lanky and awkward but a full summer on board a few different ships took care of that.
I think when it comes to his looks, he's really not that aware of them. I think he's more embarrassed by being handsome than anything else.
But,...I do think he uses the occasional dimpled half smile and eye brow raise to drive Ariel crazy when he wants to mess with her :'(.
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Post by fridamoonbeam on Jan 26, 2009 18:32:56 GMT -5
But,...I do think he uses the occasional dimpled half smile and eye brow raise to drive Ariel crazy when he wants to mess with her :'(. LOL. I can deffinately see that happening and that image makes me smile. But I also love that he'd be clueless to it. ^^ Oh, and does anyone think Eric may have had a girl friend or lover before Ariel? One that made him really conscious to make sure that he was going to be in it for love or nothing?
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Post by arielnmelody on Jan 26, 2009 20:23:39 GMT -5
Yes I do think he might have had a girlfriend/lover perhaps a older woman. Who while he was lanky and turning into a man he went to a harbor and met her a mysterious almost Esemerelda type of woman who taught him a thing or to
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Post by fridamoonbeam on Jan 26, 2009 22:12:50 GMT -5
Yes I do think he might have had a girlfriend/lover perhaps a older woman. Who while he was lanky and turning into a man he went to a harbor and met her a mysterious almost Esemerelda type of woman who taught him a thing or to ::giggles:: I'm leaning that way too! Great description of the woman too. We all know he's a total sweetheart, but I also think he could have. He could have been very intrigude by this woman, since she was different from all the girls he was used to being around. However, if anything happened, or came close too happening he would realize that he made a big mistake and it may have met bad things. From then on out he'd only be devoted to one person.... who ever that was ^^
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Post by arielnmelody on Jan 27, 2009 11:15:35 GMT -5
lol couldnt have said it better myself
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Post by Zavi on Jan 27, 2009 13:53:37 GMT -5
Aaah, so much to respond to/review/rant about! I'll get to everything...eventually...
I definitely think he had an awkward stage, though I don't think being skinny and lanky was the only thing that shaped his character. He's probably seen the whole spectrum of faults in people (the philandering/worldly sailors and the empty aristocrats) and learned from that.
But...gawd, anyone with dimples can't ever be ugly. Just awkward.
As for Eric having a relationship with someone before Ariel, I never really thought about it. It's a Disney movie, so I assumed he didn't, but you never know. I'd say one at the most (or two, but that's really pushing it) because he seems as ignorant about love as Ariel is. Not in the same innocent, almost childlike way as Ariel, but in a "Crap. I don't know what the heck I'm doing" way.
I've always thought Ariel was less nescient than people generally perceive ("She's not Giselle!" A voice interrupts), and I've thought Eric was less experienced than people think. Even though Ariel's new to the human world, both of them are young and know roughly the same amount about love/relationships: pretty much nothing. Not that it matters, because they'll learn along the way.
...I meant that in the most innocent way possible, but take it as you will.
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Post by WickedElphie on Jan 27, 2009 15:28:15 GMT -5
Heh. I think I agree with Zavi. Eric has a very inexperianced kind of vibe. He's not quite sure how to act around girls, in particular *the girl*.
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Post by fridamoonbeam on Jan 27, 2009 17:34:22 GMT -5
Lolz,
Just my thinking is that Eric deffinately isn't the player that he's sometimes made out to be, but he's also not entirely innocent. Like if he had run into said woman, I doubt he'd really know how to handle her. He'd have to be a few years younger, not like six months before meeting Ariel, when he would have been more naive. Just that she'd provide some sense of excitment in his royal life that seemed to lack it. So I think more than just 'being a guy' he'd feel some sense of freedom. Not to say anything really happened persay. LOL
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Post by WickedElphie on Jan 27, 2009 18:47:21 GMT -5
Oh I'm not saying that Eric never had a crush on a girl ever before Ariel or even a little bit of akward teenage flirtation, just that I can't picture anything substantial enough to constitute a "relationship" happening.
One or two almosts sure, but just never crossing the bridge to full-on romance, if that makes sense.
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Post by Zavi on Jan 27, 2009 20:29:22 GMT -5
Oh I'm not saying that Eric never had a crush on a girl ever before Ariel or even a little bit of akward teenage flirtation, just that I can't picture anything substantial enough to constitute a "relationship" happening. One or two almosts sure, but just never crossing the bridge to full-on romance, if that makes sense. Agreed. I can't believe any man, even a Disney one, would somehow turn the tides of human nature and have feelings for one person in their lifetime. XD That being said, I would smack Eric if I were Ariel and he started talking about these other girls. But I'm 1000x more jealous/short-tempered than Ariel will ever be. New question: What do you think the first few days/weeks/months of Ariel's life with Eric were like? You could say: "What were the first few days of the marriage like", but I thought there might have been a good length of time between spinny!kiss and fading to wedding!kiss.
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Post by WickedElphie on Jan 27, 2009 21:38:16 GMT -5
Well I think immedietly following Spinny!Kiss Ariel would hve had to explain the whole story and maybe introduce Eric to her Daddy. Then Eric would either need to helaed by the trident or checked out by a doctor. Then Erci would need to check in all, "Hey I'm not dead." and explain to Grimsby etc. After the details I see Eic and Ariel just doing a lot of talking, getting to know each other, him meeting her sistesr and friends and her meeting some of the people Eric's close to. And of course lots and lots of smoochies.
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Post by fridamoonbeam on Jan 28, 2009 0:38:04 GMT -5
Oh I'm not saying that Eric never had a crush on a girl ever before Ariel or even a little bit of akward teenage flirtation, just that I can't picture anything substantial enough to constitute a "relationship" happening. One or two almosts sure, but just never crossing the bridge to full-on romance, if that makes sense. Agreed. I can't believe any man, even a Disney one, would somehow turn the tides of human nature and have feelings for one person in their lifetime. XD That being said, I would smack Eric if I were Ariel and he started talking about these other girls. But I'm 1000x more jealous/short-tempered than Ariel will ever be. New question: What do you think the first few days/weeks/months of Ariel's life with Eric were like? You could say: "What were the first few days of the marriage like", but I thought there might have been a good length of time between spinny!kiss and fading to wedding!kiss. Yeah, that makes sense. Just kind thinking about the possibility that an alomst accurance made him re-think about just whated in life and in another person, trying to sort out his own awkwardness I like that analysis on what would have gone on, Elphie XD People always assume they got married right then and there (which according to a STOOOPID Golden book they did, but it also said that Eric was "tricked" by Ursula. I HATE when people do that. ::end of mini-rant:: XD) And of course in my own fic, they PLANNED to.... but partly for a different reason. I also think that there would be some underlying issues reguarding the ordeal with Ursula. If a two-mile high octopus woman was about to blast me into seaweed I think I'd have nightmares! LOL
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Post by WickedElphie on Jan 28, 2009 1:17:11 GMT -5
Oh yeah. Lots of angst. Mutual hurt//comfort which would of course lead to more smoochies.
And IMO there was some distance between the two kisses in the movie. A few months to a year maybe.
The wedding did happen that same day in the play, but Eric was on a deadline, so it's understandable.
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Post by Zavi on Jan 28, 2009 11:33:21 GMT -5
Aww, let the warm fuzzies roll in. ^^
I think Eric would need some time for everything to "set in". One minute he's living a normal/boring life as an eligible prince, and the next he's driving his own sunken ship into a giant cecaelia. And marrying a mermaid. And discovering the ability to commune with sea life. He'll have to suspend his disbelief and leave it behind. XD
A lot of rumors might have been going around in the kingdom (who misses a giant storm and an equally giant Ursula?) as to what happened. I don't think anyone in the kingdom actually saw the whole thing, but even if they did, the rumors probably sounded so outlandish that no one believed them.
...and, y'know, the ethical issues behind marrying a mermaid, which I think would be a lot worse than people make it out to be. But once the most closed-minded citizens move, things would probably get better for both Ariel and Eric.
I can imagine there would be a lot of random/hilarious things involving Ariel's ignorance ("...it's called a fork?") about the human world. She'd have to learn about lots of little things, like how to tie all that hair up in a towel and dealing with that little monthly visit that plagues human women everywhere. Poor Eric can't help her with that. XD
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